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JASON TURNER & MANIEN BOTHMA
Co-Creators of True Loves 2
Published by: New Reliable Press

Interviewed by: Richard Vasseur - (Posted: 6/7/2009)

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Jason Turner & Manien Bothma

Richard: What is the storyline of "True Lovers 2"?

Jason Turner: It is about the relationship, after the initial romance period. Moving in together, trying to make all your stuff fit in one dwelling.

So this is the story of True and Zander living together and having little things like work schedules become big obstacles to their relationship. At the same time we see their friends having their own relationship ups and downs.

Richard: Who are the main characters and what are they like?

Jason: True is the title character, and she owns a vintage clothing store. She is not that great at relationships. She had a lot of trouble breaking up with her boyfriend before Zander, and now that she has Zander she gets easily distracted when he's not around.

Zander is her boyfriend, who is a pretty laid back guy who kind of goes with the flow. In this volume he gets frustrated when the flow isn't cooperating with him.

Then there are their friends Herb and Eliza. Herb is Zander's buddy. He is a loveable pot-smoking complexicator. Eliza is an old friend of True, a high maintenance self-centered loud mouth, who we still have a soft spot for. She is the one who will always call True on her crap. She keeps it real.

Richard: What is the setting for this story?

Jason: It is very much set in Vancouver. The city is almost another character in the book. Also, it is the Vancouver that Manien and I live in, so it isn't so much about the drug gangs and the Olympics as people having their jobs and hanging out on Commercial Drive.

Richard: Why did you decide to create this comic?

Jason: A long time ago, I thought I might make some money writing Harlequin romance novels. So I read one, and it did not relate to my life at all. Then later I was trying to think of a Vancouver-specific story that might be serialized in a weekly local paper, and somehow that synched up with my latent desire to do a romance story that made sense to me. The initial seed of this idea was worked out with Manien ... and magic was born!

Richard: If you could change one thing in True Loves what would it be and why?

Jason: Have the printed book in colour. I really enjoy doing the online version of the story in colour and feel like it adds another dimension to the proceedings.

Richard: What is your co-creator and co-writer Manien Bothma like?

Jason: Well she is my WIFE! She is awesome. We always have so much fun writing the comic together, and it inevitably goes in directions that neither of us would have thought of on our own.

Richard: How would you describe the art on "True Lovers 2"?

Jason: Simple but evocative.

Manien Bothma: I find that with a few lines you are able to convey a lot about the characters, and what is going on in a given scene. Often when there are no words, you are saying a lot through the expressions and postures of the characters. I'm thinking of that one panel in the first book where it was a photo of True and Dirk and his brother and she was wearing that toque and there was red-eye and reflection of the flash in the Christmas ornaments... It captured that awkward Christmas with Dirk's family so well.

Richard: What is "Adulation Interlude: The Talking and Walking"?

Jason: That is the horrible clunky name I came up with for a daily drawing project through April 2009. I thought I would draw four panels straight to ink each day, and then colour them with pencil crayon, and post them on the internet. The strange and difficult to explain part of it is that I see it as a little interlude in a story that I have had in my head for years. So this is a little interlude that would not be included in the full story (that I have not actually drawn), but maybe it would get me in gear to draw the story proper. Also, it is mostly two guys walking along a street for a block, and chatting.

Richard: What do you get out of creating mini web comics?

Jason: I get to do some comics, and do them in colour if I so desire, and have them potentially read by people all over the world. And if I post them somewhere like livejournal, sometimes there is immediate feedback on them, which is nice.

Richard: Why are you a member of the Crown Commission?

Jason: Why indeed. At the time we got that together, it seemed like a good idea to have a group of mostly Canadian cartoonists, mostly in Vancouver, cross-pollinating, sharing our readers. But we had an art show. We put together a zine of jam comics. We never quite pulled it together. At this point, the Crown Commission is host to a delightful message board, promotes the Vancouver Comic Jam and nominally fuels the few stragglers in the Daily Grind Iron Man competition.

Richard: How do you spend any free time you have?

Jason: I like to read. To draw. To watch a movie or two on the DVD, perhaps with a glass of wine in my hand.

Richard: What comics did you read as a child and do you read now?

Jason: As a child, I read the superheroes. Mostly Marvel, I think, but I was not too discriminating.

Nowadays, I read things like Chris Ware, Scott Pilgrim, and a Drifting Life, with a healthy dollop of Grant Morrison superheroes on the side.

Richard: How can someone contact you?

Jason: turboloves@gmail.com

Richard: Any words for readers of your comics?

Jason: Thank you for your support, and your interest in comics that are maybe a little different.

Also: Walking down your back alley can be every bit as interesting as jetting off to Europe. If you let it.



Richard: How did you and Jason Turner come up with the idea of making a comic?

Manien Bothma: We were at the Fox and Firkin pub, on a rare day off together, and Jason asked if I would want to help come up with characters for this romance comic he wanted to do. It was great fun, coming up with good names that we thought were suitably romantic: Dirk Delaware, Zander Gunn... Even ones where we never used the full name in the comic.

Richard: Where did the idea for True Loves come from?

Manien: Jason had the idea of doing a romantic story that was more relevant to our lives than say a Harlequin romance. The main character's name is True, and that was taken from someone I once worked with. At first we were drawn to the title True Love... but then I thought of True Loves, which gives a very different feel to the title.

Richard: Can you give us a brief overview of what happened in the first True Loves?

Manien: True was going out with Dirk. She met Zander. She was overlapping the two relationships for a while, until she had the courage (and encouragement from her pal Eliza) to dump Dirk. So by the end of the book she could fully embrace her relationship with Zander. There was a side story that revealed that Eliza had once had an unfortunate one night stand with Zander's pal Herb, so that caused some discomfort for the new couple.

Richard: How has the story progressed in "True Lovers 2"?

Manien: True Loves 2 picks up a year after the first book. It looks what happens after that initial romance. True and Zander move in together, and adjust to that reality. Then their work schedules shift so that they hardly see each other, and they try to cope with that. Does it lead to trouble in paradise? Can they keep the flame alive?

Richard: Why does this story take place in Vancouver?

Manien: Jason imagined it as a strip for a local weekly newspaper, and wanted to do something very Vancouver. And we enjoy Vancouver, and have lived in quite a few different neighborhoods, so it was easy to imagine a romance story that would appeal to us, set in the Vancouver that we live in.

Richard: You and Jason Turner co-created and co-write this comic how well do you two mesh together?

Manien: In terms of the story, it is a "synergistic" relationship. The story we write together is quite different than what either of us would have come up with on our own. And we have a great old time writing it! We are always cracking ourselves up with what we come up with.

Richard: How are you and Jason Turner related?

Manien: He's my husband. Has been for almost three years. But we've been together for twelve and a half years. And been writing True Loves together for nine years. That's crazy! No wonder I feel like I know the characters so well!

Richard: What type of person would enjoy this comic?

Manien: Anyone who enjoys a good romance, and probably a lot of people who didn't think they would. I don't know, Jason, who would enjoy this comic?

Jason: Anyone who enjoys funny stories about people. People stories. Anyone who has been in love, is in love, or thinks that maybe someday they might be in love.

Richard: Do you enjoy attending comic cons?

Manien: I think I have only been to one small local one! It was very angst-provoking to sit there trying to will people to pick up our comic! "If you just start reading it, you'll love it! Just read a page!" I would really like to get out to one of the bigger shows like TCAF in Toronto, or APE or SPX.

Richard: What is next for you career wise?

Manien: Comic-wise? Because comics are not my career, it is fun. I look forward to writing more comics with Jason.

Richard: Any words of advice for someone trying to create a comic?

Manien: If you want to write comics and can't draw, make sure you hook up with someone who can! This is the first comic I have written, so I don't know really feel like I have too much advice to give.

Richard: What type of books do you read if any?

Manien: If any?! (laughs) A better question would be what kind of books DON'T I read! That's a difficult question, because I enjoy well written books, but also dubious romance, mysteries, thrillers, science fiction, fantasy. A book would have to be extremely crappy for me to not read it. I also enjoy non-fiction, such as Michael Pollan's "The Omnivore's Dilemma"... That's why I love the library, it is like a little miracle. All these books... for free! More books than I could possibly (I hope) ever read.

Richard: How can someone contact you?

Manien: turboloves@gmail.com

Richard: Any final words of wisdom?

Manien: You could always hope and hold out for something better, but the best is to enjoy your life right now. That sounds kind of sappy and sucky doesn't it? Santosa = Contentment.
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